DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) vs Qwen3.8 Max: The Ultimate Performance & Pricing Comparison
Deep dive into reasoning, benchmarks, and latency insights.
The Final Verdict in the DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) vs Qwen3.8 Max Showdown
The current catalog does not contain complete performance evidence for both models, so this page does not declare an overall winner. Use the available fields as comparison signals and validate the models on your own workload.
Model Snapshot
Key decision metrics at a glance.
Machine-readable comparison data
| Model | Metric | Value | Unit | Source / snapshot |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | Reasoning | 6.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| Qwen3.8 Max | Reasoning | 6.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | Coding | 6.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| Qwen3.8 Max | Coding | 7.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | Multimodal | 3.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| Qwen3.8 Max | Multimodal | 5.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | Long Context | 4.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| Qwen3.8 Max | Long Context | 7.0 | benchmark or capability score | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | Blended Price / 1M tokens | $0.544 | USD per 1M tokens | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| Qwen3.8 Max | Blended Price / 1M tokens | $3 | USD per 1M tokens | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | P95 Latency | — | milliseconds | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| Qwen3.8 Max | P95 Latency | — | milliseconds | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | Tokens per second | 63.061 | tokens per second | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
| Qwen3.8 Max | Tokens per second | 47.553 | tokens per second | Artificial Analysis · current catalog |
Data provided by Artificial Analysis; live values use the current catalog.
Overall Capabilities
This radar chart visually maps the core capabilities (reasoning, coding, math proxy, multimodal, long context) of `DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning)` vs `Qwen3.8 Max`.
Benchmark Breakdown
This grouped bar chart provides a side-by-side comparison for each benchmark metric.
Speed & Latency
Lower time to first token is better; higher tokens per second is better.
The Economics of DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) vs Qwen3.8 Max
Pricing Breakdown
Compare input and output pricing in USD per 1M tokens.
Real-World Cost Scenario
Per run: 1M input tokens + 250k output tokensDeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning)$0.652
Qwen3.8 Max$3.5
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) costs $2.848 less per run
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) vs Qwen3.8 Max
This article is a dated snapshot published on 2026-08-13. Live cards above use the current catalog; missing live fields are not inferred.

- Winner overall: Qwen3.8 Max, with a 58.1 Intelligence Index versus 31.9, but its official availability remains unverified.
- Cheaper: DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) at $0.544 vs $3 per 1M blended tokens.
- Faster: DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) at 62.894 median output tokens per second.
- Pick Qwen3.8 Max when: measured task quality matters more than a 43.993-second latency result and deployment access is confirmed.
- Watch out: neither vendor source verifies the exact benchmarked model as a currently documented production API offering.
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) vs Qwen3.8 Max: the short answer
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger measured model, while DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) is the practical cost-and-speed choice only if its exact version can be obtained. Artificial Analysis data gives Qwen3.8 Max a 58.1 Intelligence Index and DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) a 31.9 result. That makes Qwen the default pick for work where a wrong answer, weak analysis, or failed technical task costs more than model usage.
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) has a different appeal. It costs $0.544 per 1M blended tokens, returns 62.894 median output tokens per second, and shows 1.24 seconds of latency. Qwen3.8 Max costs $3 per 1M blended tokens, returns 47.553 output tokens per second, and shows 43.993 seconds of latency in the same Artificial Analysis data. For responsive chat, high-volume extraction, and short production loops, those operating characteristics can matter more than a broad quality score.
Qwen3.8 Max has the bigger deployment risk. Alibaba's current official model directory does not list qwen3-8-max, so its API availability, endpoint, pricing, context limit, and supported modalities cannot be confirmed from Alibaba Cloud Model Studio models. DeepSeek has a related version problem: its documented stable alias now points to DeepSeek-V4-Pro-0813, not the benchmarked 0424 non-reasoning release, according to DeepSeek Models & Pricing.
The decision is therefore not a clean benchmark contest. First verify that your provider can serve the exact model ID you tested. Then choose Qwen3.8 Max for measured capability, or DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) for low-latency, low-cost workloads with tightly controlled evaluation.
Data provided by https://artificialanalysis.ai/
What developers can trust before committing
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) has clearer vendor documentation around its current family, but neither exact benchmarked model has a fully verified production contract. The central selection question is not merely which score is higher. It is whether the model name in your evaluation, contract, API response, and production logs refers to the same artifact.
| Decision area | DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| Measured Intelligence Index | 31.9 | 58.1 |
| Blended price per 1M tokens | $0.544 | $3 |
| Median output speed | 62.894 | 47.553 |
| Latency | 1.24 seconds | 43.993 seconds |
| Official evidence for exact model | Not found | Not found |
DeepSeek's official documentation is useful but cannot be treated as documentation for the 0424 model. It says the stable deepseek-v4-pro alias currently maps to DeepSeek-V4-Pro-0813, and lists capabilities for that current version, including JSON output, tool calling, Responses API, Anthropic API, and FIM Completion in non-thinking mode. Those claims come from DeepSeek Models & Pricing, not from a dedicated 0424 non-reasoning specification.
Qwen3.8 Max has a more serious evidence gap. The official Alibaba list names other Qwen versions but does not show qwen3-8-max. Alibaba Cloud Model Studio models therefore cannot confirm it is formally released, callable, or priced by Alibaba Cloud. Do not substitute Qwen3.7 Max documentation for Qwen3.8 Max.
The practical implication is simple: benchmark results support a quality comparison, but they do not prove feature parity, compliance posture, tool-call behavior, context capacity, or regional availability. Run an integration gate before selecting either model for a customer-facing workflow.
Performance: Qwen wins quality, DeepSeek wins interaction speed
Qwen3.8 Max is the better choice for difficult reasoning and technical evaluation, while DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) is better suited to fast response loops. Qwen leads the shared measured quality results: 58.1 versus 31.9 on the Intelligence Index, 0.927 versus 0.717 on GPQA, 0.43 versus 0.082 on HLE, 0.529 versus 0.424 on SciCode, and 0.743333333333333 versus 0.496666666666667 on LCR in Artificial Analysis data.
Those results suggest Qwen is the safer starting point for tasks where the model must reason through unfamiliar constraints, inspect complex code, or produce an answer that a human may trust without many repair cycles. The result does not prove that Qwen will win every repository, programming language, prompt style, or agent framework. DeepSeek lacks a published Coding Index in this data snapshot, while Qwen lacks some DeepSeek measurements. The benchmark coverage is uneven, so a single universal coding verdict would overstate the evidence.
DeepSeek has a clear operational advantage in the speed metrics. A 1.24-second latency result supports interfaces where users notice waiting, such as interactive assistance, structured extraction, short classification prompts, and iterative editing. Qwen's 43.993-second latency result may be acceptable for background analysis, review queues, or jobs where human work continues while the answer is generated. It is a poor fit for a product promise centered on immediate replies.
DeepSeek's 62.894 median output tokens per second also reduces visible streaming time after generation starts. Yet speed should not be judged alone. A fast model becomes slower at the workflow level if it requires more retries, more reviewer corrections, or additional validation. The data supports a split decision: use Qwen for higher-stakes quality tests, and use DeepSeek where predictable responsiveness is the product requirement.
Cost: DeepSeek is cheaper, but cheaper requests can still cost more work
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) is the lower-cost option in the supplied data, with $0.544 blended pricing per 1M tokens versus $3 for Qwen3.8 Max. The input and output figures point in the same direction: $0.435 and $0.87 for DeepSeek, compared with $2 and $6 for Qwen in Artificial Analysis data.
That price gap is meaningful for workloads with many routine calls. Examples include tagging records, drafting controlled templates, summarizing predictable formats, and answering questions already grounded in retrieved material. DeepSeek's lower latency makes that operating model more attractive because the user or downstream system can move on quickly.
Qwen3.8 Max may still be cheaper for a task that otherwise needs retries or human repair. This is not a claim that the benchmark proves a specific savings amount. It is a workflow risk: a lower price per token does not measure the cost of failed code, rejected output, escalation, or a second model call. Qwen's higher measured reasoning-related results make it a credible candidate for tasks where one better attempt has business value.
Price verification remains essential. DeepSeek's official page lists current prices for the deepseek-v4-pro stable alias, which maps to DeepSeek-V4-Pro-0813 rather than the benchmarked 0424 release. It also announces peak and off-peak pricing changes, so the page cannot validate a permanent price for the exact comparison target. See DeepSeek Models & Pricing. Alibaba's current model directory does not provide a verified price for qwen3-8-max, as shown by Alibaba Cloud Model Studio models. Treat the supplied figures as the comparison snapshot, then obtain a current quote before signing off a budget.
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) leads on 3 of 3 metrics
Recommendation: choose Qwen for quality after access validation
Qwen3.8 Max is the overall recommendation for demanding developer work, provided your team first confirms that the exact model is officially available and callable. Its 58.1 Intelligence Index, 71.8 Coding Index, and stronger shared evaluation results make it the evidence-based candidate for complex code changes, difficult research synthesis, and automated work that needs strong review standards. The measured data comes from Artificial Analysis.
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) is the recommendation for high-volume, low-latency workloads after your team verifies the exact 0424 endpoint. Its $0.544 blended price, 62.894 output tokens per second, and 1.24-second latency are well aligned with user-facing throughput. It is especially suitable when a deterministic application layer constrains the job, retrieved context supplies facts, and your own tests show sufficient quality.
Use this decision rule:
- Pick Qwen3.8 Max for difficult tasks where the model's first answer has high value, but block rollout until the vendor confirms
qwen3-8-maxaccess. - Pick DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) for fast and economical production workloads, but pin the exact version rather than relying on the
deepseek-v4-proalias. - Keep a model-level evaluation set that mirrors your real prompts, data formats, tools, and failure costs.
DeepSeek's documentation confirms that its current stable alias points to a later version, so alias-based testing can silently invalidate a 0424 comparison. DeepSeek Models & Pricing should be used to confirm version mapping during procurement and deployment. Qwen requires an even stricter gate because the official directory does not list its exact ID. Alibaba Cloud Model Studio models is the available official evidence for that absence.
Neither source provides verified community reports for the exact model IDs. There is insufficient evidence to claim either model is more reliable, more steerable, safer with tools, or better with multimodal input.
Questions to answer before an API migration
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) and Qwen3.8 Max both require a short verification run before a production migration. Benchmarks answer an important question about measured model behavior, but they do not establish the exact endpoint, model lifecycle, rate limits, context length, response schema, or tool integration you will receive from a vendor.
For DeepSeek, ask your provider whether deepseek-v4-pro-0424-non-reasoning is still callable by that full name. The public DeepSeek documentation describes the current deepseek-v4-pro alias as DeepSeek-V4-Pro-0813, not the 0424 benchmark target. It lists a 100万 token context window and a maximum 38.4万 token output for the current alias, but those specifications must not be applied to 0424 without confirmation. See DeepSeek Models & Pricing.
For Qwen, ask for written confirmation of the exact qwen3-8-max model ID, endpoint, supported regions, billing unit, rate limits, and deprecation policy. The current Alibaba Cloud Model Studio models directory does not list that model. That is evidence of missing public documentation, not proof that the model does not exist through every channel.
For either model, test production-shaped prompts before migration. Include malformed input, long retrieved context, tool errors, schema repair, timeout handling, and sensitive cases. Log the returned model identifier. Compare success rate, reviewer edits, latency, and total workflow cost, not just token prices. The supplied snapshot is valuable selection input, but it is not a substitute for an acceptance test tied to your application.
Sources
- Artificial AnalysisMeasured performance, evaluation, latency, output-speed, pricing snapshot, and data attribution.
- DeepSeek Models & PricingCurrent DeepSeek stable alias mapping, documented current capabilities, pricing context, and version-status caveats.
- Alibaba Cloud Model Studio modelsVerification that the supplied official model directory does not list qwen3-8-max.
Your Questions about the DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) vs Qwen3.8 Max Comparison
Which model should I choose for complex coding work?
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger starting candidate for complex coding work because it has a 71.8 Coding Index and stronger shared quality results. Confirm that qwen3-8-max is actually available through your intended Alibaba channel before committing production traffic.
Which model is better for a fast customer-facing assistant?
DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) is the better fit for a fast customer-facing assistant in this snapshot because it reports 1.24 seconds latency and 62.894 median output tokens per second. Verify the exact 0424 model endpoint, because the documented stable alias now maps to another version.
Can I rely on the official documentation for these exact models?
No, neither exact model has complete official documentation in the supplied sources. DeepSeek documents a later stable alias version, while Alibaba's current official model list does not show qwen3-8-max, leaving key deployment details unverified.
Does the cheaper DeepSeek model always reduce total application cost?
No, DeepSeek V4 Pro (Non-reasoning) has lower listed token prices, but lower token price does not include retries, human review, or downstream correction. Qwen3.8 Max can be the better economic choice when stronger first-pass quality avoids expensive workflow failures.
What should my team test before selecting either model?
Your team should test the exact model ID, returned version name, real prompts, tool calls, structured output, long-context behavior, failures, latency, and reviewer edits. This confirms whether benchmark data translates into the product behavior, reliability, and operating cost your users need.